On-Track Plant - Photo - 86101

86101 - Plasser & Theurer 08-16 Universal Tamper / Liner

Photo of 86101 at Hither Green - 11 December 1984. Duncan Elsey.

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• All Seeing Eye

  20 January 2010, 08:47:37

  Does not appear to be an 07- 275 ,so machine at front of line is unlikely to be 73311 , no belly cab + has no tool swing provision . It looks like an 08-16 73801 / 2 , but then again has no trailer so wwill not be either of them .

• Andy Prime

  20 January 2010, 13:09:18

  The second machine looks like the Grinder, so is this the Strait and Grinder combination that used to work together ?

• Andy Prime

  20 January 2010, 13:13:48

  .. as in 08-16 No 86101 and 79401

• Tam Per Fitter

  20 January 2010, 13:45:26

  Andy's spot on. It's 86101 towing it's pet grinder when it used to tour the southern region. However parked up behind the grinder is DR73311 (535) and behind that is DR77316 Ballast Regulator.

• Simon Warnes

  20 January 2010, 13:56:29

  How is the joint straighter different to a normal tamper ?

  Did the joint straighter just lift and pack dipped joints ?

• Andy Prime

  20 January 2010, 17:50:43

  It seemed to me to be quite an effective piece of kit, I went to see it working once and there was a noticeable difference after it had done its work, quite how long the joint stayed good afterwards I don't know.

  At your dipped joint the 08-16 would lift the rails at both sides of the joint using its hydraulics and tamp it. This would leave the joint inversely dipped so raised above normal rail level. Then the grinder would come along and file it all flat. I got the impression that the 08-16 was actually bending the rail ends upwards but this seems a little extreme in retrospect and would surely break any fishplate or bolts over the joint. I don't remember anyone actually removing fishplates before using this bit of kit but maybe I missed that bit !

  Do we presume the combo was taken out of use due to the increase in CWR and less rail joints ?

• Tam Per Fitter

  20 January 2010, 19:23:50

  Along the lines of what Andy said, the clamp frame that lifted the track looked from the outside as a standard 07 Series Tamper clamp frame. The main difference was that between the front and rear roller clamps was a hook (like a small track lifting hook and a Compact). This hook then applied a bend on the joint, like Andy stated. The Machine would then tamp the sleepers around the joint and then move on to the next joint whilst the grinder done it's job.

  When DR86101 was converted to become a full time Tamper, ALC was fitted, the Tamping bank unit lift cylinders were beefed up (because of the amount of extra sleepers it would have to tamp on a shift) and of course the clamp frame was replaced with a standard one.

• Bryan Blundell

  21 January 2010, 16:24:24

  There used to be in the early 90s a Joint Straightener that fitted in the back of a van and loaded on to a trolley.

  We used to use it based in the York area,

  You always had to make sure you had a supply of spare fishplates due to the amount that got broke.

  It did work by bending the rail ends back up, Gang lads then had to repack the beds with chippings.

  Not sure if it is still around. Possibly been sold off to a private railway.

• Simon Warnes

  21 January 2010, 19:05:27

  Bryan

  Is this it ???

  http://www.harscorail.co.uk/products/jointstraight.html

  http://www.harscorail.co.uk/pdf/Rail%20Joint%20Straightener.pdf

  It looks like HTT are still selling it, you can hire them form speedy hire to.

• Barry John Cooper

  21 January 2010, 22:50:08

  How about one of the SE Section's 07-16, 73249 or something?

• Bryan Blundell

  22 January 2010, 16:46:20

  That certainly looks like it.

• Ben Williams

  22 January 2010, 20:33:28

  Thanks guys for the comments - caption amended

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