I've seen a photo of it elsewhere - looks like a larger "Mini 1T" trailer. If it was acquired from the same tender as the two trolleys, then I suspect it is one of the following:
011672, 011677, 011693 or 011695.
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If you have any photos of it, or the trolleys, then please feel free to share :) Thanks!
I saw this at the Land Recovery Rail depot in Sandbach today. It was carrying fleet number LRR41, so it's safe to say that is owned by them rather than TXM.
There was another Doosan there but that didn't have any numbers on that I could see.
Now owned by Bari Construction, Bucharest following overhaul at Plasser, Linz. It’s retains Colas orange and the name “Olwen” as well as its UK number.
I concur with Lee's comment. The machine now carrying 911008-9, YB02-1836, formerly 911035-2, does not have a Rexquote plate on the RRE but 2150 is given on the data panel. Presuambly the old 911008-9, YB04-02443, will emerge as 911035-2?
Peter, I recorded 1313 911008-9 at Quattro Cwmbran on 11.01.24 and I can confirm builders plate YB02 - 01836. Unfortunately I didn't record its Rexquote plate not sensing at the time its importance.
The other machine in question was also seen the same day at one of the GOS outstation locations on Gilchrist Thomas Ind Estate Blaenavon in ex BB condition but access wasnt possible to record any details
Unfortunately I didn't check the machine's builders plates on 14/2, but the question needs to be asked as to why have GOS changed the identities in the first place ?
Roger, on 14 February did you check all numbers on the two 99709 91109-9 machines that you saw. If information I now have is correct the one at Cwmbran was:
911008-9 = YB02 - 01836 = RX 2150 = QUAT 1313
the one at GOS was:
911008-9 = YB04 - 02443 = RX 2266 = QUAT 1314
The one at GOS logically will become 911035-2 once re-certified.
Unfortunately I cannot find my observation books from 7/94 - 2000, so cannot comment what was seen, but will delete the sighting to be on the safe side.
The answer is no, on checking my observations, I did not see the Wickham. I put the number E 960701 down, but did not put what type of vehicle, and it was obviously the Pooley Van I saw. I will delete the sighting.
Seeing this yesterday reminded me that this is in fact a tractor unit and a separate trailer - the trailer is listed as 009046, although i don't think it has ever carried its assigned EVN.
Going by the sightings of 975106, it seems a lot of people haven't logged the trailer separately.
Having now seen pictures taken in 2021 I'm 100% certain that the chassis on the heap of sleepers is that from this trolley and have thus added my sighting.
It does carries a plate which has 16.6.49 stamped on it three times.
Has anyone who has seen this machine in 2024 methodically checked on the machine for the fleet number, machine builders number, Rexquote number and POV number. If so, what did they discover?
Has anyone who has seen this machine in 2024 methodically checked on the machine for the fleet number, machine builders number, Rexquote number and POV number. If so, what did they discover?
What became of Type 17A 7581/1956 (DE320484 - DB965066) isn't completely clear. My current understanding is that it was disposed of by BR to a company called M E Engineering of Cricklewood, London. They appear to have acquired a number of Wickham Trolleys from BR for resale. This one passing to the Bluebell Railway c1972 and remaining there until c1979. What condition it was in then isn't clear and I haven't seen any photographs of it there during this period.
In c1979 it along with the Type 17 referred to as "7581" in the above it moved to a private site for restoration, returning to the Bluebell Railway c1982. During this restoration the Type 17A was converted to a flat bed trailer and its 7581 plate removed, The plate being affixed to the Type 17. What if any identification the Type 17A then carried I don't know. Whether or not it survives or not I don't know.
As with the Type 17 referred to as "7581" pictures would be welcomed.
Currently there isn't a record for Type 17A 7581/1956 but could I suggest one be added. Although it might have long since gone it might still be at the Bluebell Railway as a trailer. Owner **Preserved Vehicles. Vehicle = Wickham Trailer - ex Trolley. Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered trailers. Build Number 7581/1956. Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered. Preserved Bluebell Railway. Notes Builders plate 7581/1956 carried by Type 17 trolley between c1982-2012. See "7581".
MN0005 is now on the website. Type MN0005 into the search box to find it. Note the Vehicle and Category have it as (ordered, scrapped, exported etc) for some reason whilst it doesn't appear to come up under its Whitwell and Reepham Railway link. Obar123's picture needs adding.
Once added I would encourage anyone who has seen it to add their sightings. Also ensure they alter any sightings they have made of "7581" which were actually of MN0005. Check your note books as I suspect this might have acquired the MN0005 number before moving there. Possibly previously at Darlington but I'm far from sure at the moment.
To answer Roger, 529 is actually "529". It is the identity that the trolley currently shown as "7581" will take once restored. The chassis of this is the one I believe I saw down the yard last year on a pile of sleepers. I haven't added my sighting as I wasn't certain it was this at the time and I'm still not. Really need some pictures of that chassis if anyone has any for comparison with an earlier set of pictures.
Jonathan, do you believe the one I saw on the heap of sleepers last year was "7581". I know I asked you at the time but don't appear to have a reply. Have you any pictures of "7581" as you don't appear to have an album for it?
Vince this is 99709 911008-9, it has 1313 (it's QPL number) in the quick hitch.
This photo: https://www.ontrackplant.com/photo/quattro-1314-99709911008-c0a541 is listed as 99709 911008-9 / 1314, but I can clearly see 1313 in the Quick Hitch...
I'm happy to add my siting and onto the MN0005 when it is added and deleted my sighting of 7581, however I can't deleted the picture that is now on 7581 so maybe a job for admin to delete it or move to the MN0005 trolley.
As far as I can tell MN0005 is not on the website so needs adding. Owner **Preserved Vehicles. Vehicle = Wickham Trailer - ex Trolley. Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered trailers. Build Number unknown. Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered. Preserved Whitwell & Reepham Railway. Notes Converted to trailer from Type 17 or 17A.
Once added I would encourage anyone who has seen it to add their sightings. Also ensure alter any sightings they have made of "7581" which were actually of this.
To answer Roger, 529 is actually "529". It is the identity that the trolley currently shown as "7581" will take once restored. The chassis of this is the one I believe I saw down the yard last year on a pile of sleepers. I haven't added my sighting as I wasn't certain it was this at the time and I'm still not. Really need some pictures of that chassis if anyone has any for comparison with an earlier set of pictures.
Jonathan, do you believe the one I saw on the heap of sleepers last year was "7581". I know I asked you at the time but don't appear to have a reply. Have you any pictures of "7581" as you don't appear to have an album for it?
Lerpass Mapter
Posted: 18 March 2024, 19:36
Hopefully, the overhaul made it work and not fall to bits on every shift.
76601 / reply
Vince Website editor
Posted: 18 March 2024, 09:59
I've seen a photo of it elsewhere - looks like a larger "Mini 1T" trailer. If it was acquired from the same tender as the two trolleys, then I suspect it is one of the following:
011672, 011677, 011693 or 011695.
/
If you have any photos of it, or the trolleys, then please feel free to share :) Thanks!
M44/155 / reply
Dennis Graham
Posted: 18 March 2024, 09:33
There was a trailer next to the two 4x4's.
I could not find any markings.Ca anyone help with ID.
Thanks
M44/155 / reply
Lee Taylor
Posted: 17 March 2024, 14:05
I understand that this has conversion number 43051
European Trans Energy GmbH (Austria) RR - 912239 / reply
Martin Lear
Posted: 16 March 2024, 23:58
I saw this at the Land Recovery Rail depot in Sandbach today. It was carrying fleet number LRR41, so it's safe to say that is owned by them rather than TXM.
There was another Doosan there but that didn't have any numbers on that I could see.
For info. I viewed the depot from outside.
Land Recovery Rail RR - 950000 LRR41 / reply
Tom Dennett
Posted: 15 March 2024, 22:11
Carries Fleet Number M1601
EUROPTEN 99709912239 / reply
Andy Thomas
Posted: 15 March 2024, 22:09
Posted with permission from the original photographer
EUROPTEN 99709912239 / reply
Nick Tompkin
Posted: 15 March 2024, 20:48
Now owned by Bari Construction, Bucharest following overhaul at Plasser, Linz. It’s retains Colas orange and the name “Olwen” as well as its UK number.
76601 / reply
Yorkshire Puddings
Posted: 14 March 2024, 17:10
This machine as got the wrong network rail no showing on the piece of paper on the windscreen it should be 977061.
Network Rail RR - 977062 / reply
Vince Website editor
Posted: 14 March 2024, 16:19
There's a few odd sightings of this one in both Cwmbran and Shettleston recently.
Can anyone confirm what is going on please?
Network Rail RR - 977062 / reply
Roy Hennefer
Posted: 13 March 2024, 09:17
I concur with Lee's comment. The machine now carrying 911008-9, YB02-1836, formerly 911035-2, does not have a Rexquote plate on the RRE but 2150 is given on the data panel. Presuambly the old 911008-9, YB04-02443, will emerge as 911035-2?
Quattro Plant (inc AB2K) RR - 911008 1313 / reply
Lee Taylor
Posted: 13 March 2024, 08:15
Peter, I recorded 1313 911008-9 at Quattro Cwmbran on 11.01.24 and I can confirm builders plate YB02 - 01836. Unfortunately I didn't record its Rexquote plate not sensing at the time its importance.
The other machine in question was also seen the same day at one of the GOS outstation locations on Gilchrist Thomas Ind Estate Blaenavon in ex BB condition but access wasnt possible to record any details
Quattro Plant (inc AB2K) RR - 911008 1313 / reply
Roger Harris
Posted: 13 March 2024, 07:26
Unfortunately I didn't check the machine's builders plates on 14/2, but the question needs to be asked as to why have GOS changed the identities in the first place ?
Quattro Plant (inc AB2K) RR - 911008 1313 / reply
Peter Hall
Posted: 12 March 2024, 09:49
Did any of those who have reported a sighting of this machine at Rail Live 2023 confirm that it was in fact YB04 - 02443 / Rexquote 2150?
Quattro Plant (inc AB2K) RR - 911008 1314 / reply
Peter Hall
Posted: 12 March 2024, 09:34
Roger, on 14 February did you check all numbers on the two 99709 91109-9 machines that you saw. If information I now have is correct the one at Cwmbran was:
911008-9 = YB02 - 01836 = RX 2150 = QUAT 1313
the one at GOS was:
911008-9 = YB04 - 02443 = RX 2266 = QUAT 1314
The one at GOS logically will become 911035-2 once re-certified.
See also my posting in the Forum on this.
Quattro Plant (inc AB2K) RR - 911008 1313 / reply
Roger Harris
Posted: 11 March 2024, 22:46
Unfortunately I cannot find my observation books from 7/94 - 2000, so cannot comment what was seen, but will delete the sighting to be on the safe side.
DE960220 / reply
Roger Harris
Posted: 11 March 2024, 12:08
The answer is no, on checking my observations, I did not see the Wickham. I put the number E 960701 down, but did not put what type of vehicle, and it was obviously the Pooley Van I saw. I will delete the sighting.
DE960701 / reply
Vince Website editor
Posted: 11 March 2024, 09:13
Seeing this yesterday reminded me that this is in fact a tractor unit and a separate trailer - the trailer is listed as 009046, although i don't think it has ever carried its assigned EVN.
Going by the sightings of 975106, it seems a lot of people haven't logged the trailer separately.
QTS RRF02 99709975106 SF58OZJ + ARB41 009046 / reply
Robin Morel
Posted: 10 March 2024, 18:15
oberhead line upgrade work
SRS 99709919030 DX53CNA / reply
Peter Hall
Posted: 10 March 2024, 17:41
Having now seen pictures taken in 2021 I'm 100% certain that the chassis on the heap of sleepers is that from this trolley and have thus added my sighting.
It does carries a plate which has 16.6.49 stamped on it three times.
"7581" / reply
Gerry Desmond
Posted: 10 March 2024, 16:40
Noted at NIRT 28/05/1995. Metre gauge?
Nordberg Track Machine Model S Builders Number 330 / reply
Dennis Graham
Posted: 10 March 2024, 14:04
Still has wrong RIV
Readypower Rail Services RR - 940616 R1141 / reply
Peter Hall
Posted: 9 March 2024, 09:03
Has anyone who has seen this machine in 2024 methodically checked on the machine for the fleet number, machine builders number, Rexquote number and POV number. If so, what did they discover?
Quattro Plant (inc AB2K) RR - 911008 1314 / reply
Peter Hall
Posted: 8 March 2024, 21:51
Has anyone who has seen this machine in 2024 methodically checked on the machine for the fleet number, machine builders number, Rexquote number and POV number. If so, what did they discover?
Quattro Plant (inc AB2K) RR - 911008 1313 / reply
Shawn Collier
Posted: 6 March 2024, 13:51
plus three others unidentified
50001 / reply
Shawn Collier
Posted: 6 March 2024, 13:51
Brand new machines at Northampton Bridge St
Permaquip lift & slewers / reply
Shawn Collier
Posted: 6 March 2024, 13:50
Runner ADB933342 ZSV
95000 / reply
Shawn Collier
Posted: 6 March 2024, 13:50
part dismantled
81025 / reply
Shawn Collier
Posted: 6 March 2024, 13:50
On DB904524
78414 / reply
Shawn Collier
Posted: 6 March 2024, 13:49
Runner TDB 998541
96700 / reply
Shawn Collier
Posted: 6 March 2024, 13:49
KDB900429 YVP fitted with hydraulic lifting machinery
KDB900429 / reply
Shawn Collier
Posted: 6 March 2024, 13:49
Runner DE320861
81318 / reply
Shawn Collier
Posted: 6 March 2024, 13:47
Carried on DB904630 Lowmac WBB
78337 / reply
Shawn Collier
Posted: 6 March 2024, 13:47
Runners DM477192 ZYV & LDB936082 ZYV
96306 / reply
Peter Hall
Posted: 6 March 2024, 10:27
What became of Type 17A 7581/1956 (DE320484 - DB965066) isn't completely clear. My current understanding is that it was disposed of by BR to a company called M E Engineering of Cricklewood, London. They appear to have acquired a number of Wickham Trolleys from BR for resale. This one passing to the Bluebell Railway c1972 and remaining there until c1979. What condition it was in then isn't clear and I haven't seen any photographs of it there during this period.
In c1979 it along with the Type 17 referred to as "7581" in the above it moved to a private site for restoration, returning to the Bluebell Railway c1982. During this restoration the Type 17A was converted to a flat bed trailer and its 7581 plate removed, The plate being affixed to the Type 17. What if any identification the Type 17A then carried I don't know. Whether or not it survives or not I don't know.
As with the Type 17 referred to as "7581" pictures would be welcomed.
Currently there isn't a record for Type 17A 7581/1956 but could I suggest one be added. Although it might have long since gone it might still be at the Bluebell Railway as a trailer. Owner **Preserved Vehicles. Vehicle = Wickham Trailer - ex Trolley. Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered trailers. Build Number 7581/1956. Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered. Preserved Bluebell Railway. Notes Builders plate 7581/1956 carried by Type 17 trolley between c1982-2012. See "7581".
"7581" / reply
Peter Hall
Posted: 6 March 2024, 09:20
Hopefully the editors will pick this up.
MN0005 is now on the website. Type MN0005 into the search box to find it. Note the Vehicle and Category have it as (ordered, scrapped, exported etc) for some reason whilst it doesn't appear to come up under its Whitwell and Reepham Railway link. Obar123's picture needs adding.
Once added I would encourage anyone who has seen it to add their sightings. Also ensure they alter any sightings they have made of "7581" which were actually of MN0005. Check your note books as I suspect this might have acquired the MN0005 number before moving there. Possibly previously at Darlington but I'm far from sure at the moment.
To answer Roger, 529 is actually "529". It is the identity that the trolley currently shown as "7581" will take once restored. The chassis of this is the one I believe I saw down the yard last year on a pile of sleepers. I haven't added my sighting as I wasn't certain it was this at the time and I'm still not. Really need some pictures of that chassis if anyone has any for comparison with an earlier set of pictures.
Jonathan, do you believe the one I saw on the heap of sleepers last year was "7581". I know I asked you at the time but don't appear to have a reply. Have you any pictures of "7581" as you don't appear to have an album for it?
"7581" / reply
Roger Harris
Posted: 5 March 2024, 22:02
Could MN0005 be the dismantled Wickham that apparently carries the plate 529 of 1932 ?
MN005 / reply
Adam Williams
Posted: 5 March 2024, 21:52
I was with Quattro testing 99709 911008-9 / 1313 at the Dean Forest Railway on the 1st Feb '24
Quattro Plant (inc AB2K) RR - 911008 1313 / reply
Adam Williams
Posted: 5 March 2024, 21:28
This isn't 1314, it has 1313 engraved in the Quick Hitch
Quattro 1313 - 99709911008 / reply
Adam Williams
Posted: 5 March 2024, 21:23
Vince this is 99709 911008-9, it has 1313 (it's QPL number) in the quick hitch.
This photo: https://www.ontrackplant.com/photo/quattro-1314-99709911008-c0a541 is listed as 99709 911008-9 / 1314, but I can clearly see 1313 in the Quick Hitch...
QPL1313 / reply
Obar123
Posted: 5 March 2024, 16:00
I'm happy to add my siting and onto the MN0005 when it is added and deleted my sighting of 7581, however I can't deleted the picture that is now on 7581 so maybe a job for admin to delete it or move to the MN0005 trolley.
MN005 / reply
Peter Hall
Posted: 5 March 2024, 15:23
Hopefully the editors will pick this up.
As far as I can tell MN0005 is not on the website so needs adding. Owner **Preserved Vehicles. Vehicle = Wickham Trailer - ex Trolley. Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered trailers. Build Number unknown. Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered. Preserved Whitwell & Reepham Railway. Notes Converted to trailer from Type 17 or 17A.
Once added I would encourage anyone who has seen it to add their sightings. Also ensure alter any sightings they have made of "7581" which were actually of this.
To answer Roger, 529 is actually "529". It is the identity that the trolley currently shown as "7581" will take once restored. The chassis of this is the one I believe I saw down the yard last year on a pile of sleepers. I haven't added my sighting as I wasn't certain it was this at the time and I'm still not. Really need some pictures of that chassis if anyone has any for comparison with an earlier set of pictures.
Jonathan, do you believe the one I saw on the heap of sleepers last year was "7581". I know I asked you at the time but don't appear to have a reply. Have you any pictures of "7581" as you don't appear to have an album for it?
MN005 / reply
Jonathan Flood
Posted: 5 March 2024, 15:10
No, most DsmT Wickhams are not on this site.
There are a number that exist, but like this one their actual / original identities are sadly unknown.
MN005 / reply
Roger Harris
Posted: 5 March 2024, 14:20
Could MN0005 be the dismantled Wickham that apparently carries the plate 529 of 1932 ?
MN005 / reply
Obar123
Posted: 5 March 2024, 13:27
The unidentified MN0005 is infront of 68044. So is MN0005 on the website or not?
MN005 / reply
Jonathan Flood
Posted: 5 March 2024, 13:22
'7581' and MN0005 are two different vehicles.
'7581' is privately owned and is going to be restored as a powered Trolley.
"7581" / reply
Jonathan Flood
Posted: 5 March 2024, 13:20
These Flickr albums cover the two vehicles:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/28686013@N05/albums/72157714572837748/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/28686013@N05/albums/72157714574164577/
MN005 / reply