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Thanks, Vince. For now I have recorded it GR5101 (?505). I am hoping there's an observation 'somewhere' in the IRS records around the time of my photo.
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It's still at Norchard, and visible from the car park in the trees at the very far end of the site. I assume it would be visible at the moment (but not in mid-summer perhaps) by passing train, if you looked in exactly the right place at the right time. I did get a photo of it from the car park, I'll email you a copy.
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I couldn't find this one when I was at Norchard early last year. I see you saw it recently Dan (and gsg last year) - where is it please? I think I was told it was stored off site at the moment...
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Thanks, Peter. Another one solved.
I found this 2000 financial press report on line:
"Elec-Track’s growth of 155% a year has been driven by increased investment in Britain’s rail and tram systems..... The company, which installs and maintains overhead electrical cables for new tram systems as well as working with Railtrack.... High-profile contracts include the recently opened Birmingham-Wolverhampton tramway."
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Some pictures of this Wickham, when in service on the Lochaber Narrow Gauge Railway - https://www.flickr.com/photos/28686013@N05/albums/72157718110213481
At this time, I believe this was owned by Border Rail.
I am wondering if the workshop/access body (which has been carried since at least 2003, and it appears possibly since 2000) may have been a later modification? Does anyone know for certain?
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My thanks to Vince and all respondents - I thought I had previously replied to this but the comments page is still requesting a reply.
It would seem that this machine is a Plasser & Theurer 'Beaver' Tamper with a narrow cab at one end (others seem to have wider cabs at both ends).
(P.S. please excuse my ignorance of the technicalities of OTP - although I am slowly learning stuff from seeing the entries on this site!! BTW - I recognise several 'names' of guys on here who also post on the IRS ioGroup, etc.)
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Thanks Ben - that's it. My photos are not that close up so the number is not that visible but I think it was GR505 on the Metro contract; maybe a later re-number?
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Maybe the last bit of Midland Metro associated 'kit' that is UID for me. It's the Unimog on the left in this view. Can't see if it's got a registration plate on my photo (taken through the fence). I have had a search of Unimogs on this site and can't ID it from the options. It is not the blue Brecknell Willis one that was also here. BTW - The other vehicle is the Iveco 6-wheel lorry which was also RR; in this view it's yet to receive its registration number R199 EOX. It was delivered complete with a snow plough attachment. Again, thanks in advance for any help on this.
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Seen on newly laid Metro track adjacent to the eastern end of Network Rail's Queens Head Sidings, Handsworth. Trailer carries block paving used at Metro stops. This vehicle is not recorded in the IRS WM Handbook Amendment List. I haven't found it mentioned on this site using the search facility. Any details known, please? (exact date is recorded - not to hand)
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I didn't record any id for this vehicle at the time :-( . The amendment list for the IRS West Midlands Handbook shows a Robel on this contract as GR 5098. I have assumed this as the identity of the vehicle I photographed - is this known to be correct?
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I believe you are referring to 77908 and not this machine? Unfortunately it was widely reported wrongly yesterday that 73908 was included in the move from Guide Bridge to Dollands Moor.
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My thanks to all respondents - it would seem that this machine is a Plasser & Theurer 'Beaver' Tamper with a narrow cab at one end (others seem to have wider cabs at both ends).
(P.S. please excuse my ignorance of the technicalities of OTP - although I am slowly learning stuff from seeing the entries on this site!! BTW - I recognise several 'names' of guys on here who also post on the IRS ioGroup, etc.)
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We have photos of all of it's siblings on this website if you're interested. Just do a search for any of the following numbers, either the old GR5xxx number or newer 510xx number:
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Thanks for the information provided on this machine. I have now submitted a photo taken of the other end of the machine showing the small cab arrangement.
I am confident that this would have been the machine seen by Ted Knotwell @ Wednesbury in 1997.
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...following this Nick has found a photo of this one in 2005 OTP book page 31. This shows 51020 with a small cab at the far end - mystery solved I think! If anyone has another photo of this one please upload it...
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The tamper behind looks like your number 6 again. This top view shows rear cab isn't a full width cab which is why I am not sure if it is one of the Beaver tampers we have listed...
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...and while we're on the subject of Grant Lyon Eagre - comments above give some history. Paul Bartlett's page seems to have photos of 3 and 5 but the one that survives at Embsay is 2.
Ex Babcock Employee
Posted: 19 April 2021, 22:29
Any idea where this machine is being exported to?
77908 / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 19 April 2021, 19:51
Received a rumour this may be up for disposal... anyone confirm please?
74108 / reply
Dan Adkins
Posted: 19 April 2021, 19:50
No the opposite end, will email you the photo now.
68019 / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 19 April 2021, 19:48
Ok thanks - with the packer etc? I must have missed it... and I was there last Feb so can't use trees as an excuse!
68019 / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 19 April 2021, 18:11
Full consist included tilting wagons too:
112127 OCA
112117 OCA
7092280132 IFA
7092280140 IFA
7092280124 IFA
7092280413 IFA
7093780098 IFA
979120 YRA
7092280223 IFA
7092280249 IFA
7092280231 IFA
997006 YWA
RLS 92544 KFA
996663 YWA
VR 97409 KFA
DRK 81622 ZOA
DB 996451 YWA
DRK 81621 ZOA
610273 FCA
610274 FCA
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Roger Monk
Posted: 19 April 2021, 17:28
Thanks, Vince. For now I have recorded it GR5101 (?505). I am hoping there's an observation 'somewhere' in the IRS records around the time of my photo.
Grant Rail 505 Donelli 'crane' unit & trailer / reply
Dan Adkins
Posted: 19 April 2021, 12:24
It's still at Norchard, and visible from the car park in the trees at the very far end of the site. I assume it would be visible at the moment (but not in mid-summer perhaps) by passing train, if you looked in exactly the right place at the right time. I did get a photo of it from the car park, I'll email you a copy.
68019 / reply
Vince Website editor
Posted: 19 April 2021, 10:24
If you squint on my photo, the number almost looks like GR505 too. The weird italic font makes the 1 and 0 appear very close.
Grant Rail 505 Donelli 'crane' unit & trailer / reply
Andy Hessey
Posted: 19 April 2021, 10:18
York to Hitchin move
DR75504 / reply
Marcus Dawson
Posted: 19 April 2021, 10:17
Could not quite get the angle on the unit to read the final digit
MMT8 at Horsham / reply
Vince Website editor
Posted: 19 April 2021, 10:17
Can see most of the number above "DR9750" - "99 70 9481 008-" - making it 97508
MMT8 at Horsham / reply
Dave Kirwin
Posted: 19 April 2021, 10:15
Tower Lane is part of the Industrial Estate. Map ref: 50.965899, -1.345712
L&W RRV157 99709940917 / reply
Dave Kirwin
Posted: 19 April 2021, 10:15
Tower Lane is part of the Industrial Estate. Map ref: 50.965899, -1.345712
L&W RRV158 99709940916 / reply
Andrew Eccles
Posted: 19 April 2021, 10:15
DRK 81622 in the consist of the 09:15 Horfield Junction to Hinksey Sidings, also in the consist but out of picture was DRK 81621
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Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 19 April 2021, 06:54
I couldn't find this one when I was at Norchard early last year. I see you saw it recently Dan (and gsg last year) - where is it please? I think I was told it was stored off site at the moment...
68019 / reply
Roger Monk
Posted: 18 April 2021, 23:31
Thanks, Peter. Another one solved.
I found this 2000 financial press report on line:
"Elec-Track’s growth of 155% a year has been driven by increased investment in Britain’s rail and tram systems..... The company, which installs and maintains overhead electrical cables for new tram systems as well as working with Railtrack.... High-profile contracts include the recently opened Birmingham-Wolverhampton tramway."
Midland Metro UID RR Unimog / reply
Jonathan Flood
Posted: 18 April 2021, 13:58
This Trolley has joined The Rail Trolley Trust fleet. An announcement about its future home will be made shortly.
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Jonathan Flood
Posted: 18 April 2021, 13:56
Some pictures of this Wickham, when in service on the Lochaber Narrow Gauge Railway - https://www.flickr.com/photos/28686013@N05/albums/72157718110213481
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Peter Hall
Posted: 18 April 2021, 10:24
The OTPNET entry for Q204 HFR (029065) seems to have omitted that it was owned by Border Rail & Plant prior to Brecknell Willis (see OTP2000).
The Unimog in the picture looks to be A855 MUA (021642) then with Elec-Trak Installations.
At the time the picture was taken various contractors were working on the Midland Metro project.
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Roger Monk
Posted: 18 April 2021, 10:00
As yet unregistered - on the day it was delivered arriving at the Depot entrance.Note snow plough attachment in box body
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Nick Tompkin
Posted: 17 April 2021, 22:35
This is potentially an interesting one! As far as I can tell, Midland Metro have only ever owned the U1650 (Q179 VOH), which isn't this machine.
However, there are quite a few sightings at Wednesbury around this time of this machine - https://www.ontrackplant.com/road-railers/blackpool-transport-services/456
At this time, I believe this was owned by Border Rail.
I am wondering if the workshop/access body (which has been carried since at least 2003, and it appears possibly since 2000) may have been a later modification? Does anyone know for certain?
Midland Metro UID RR Unimog / reply
Roger Monk
Posted: 17 April 2021, 21:41
My thanks to Vince and all respondents - I thought I had previously replied to this but the comments page is still requesting a reply.
It would seem that this machine is a Plasser & Theurer 'Beaver' Tamper with a narrow cab at one end (others seem to have wider cabs at both ends).
(P.S. please excuse my ignorance of the technicalities of OTP - although I am slowly learning stuff from seeing the entries on this site!! BTW - I recognise several 'names' of guys on here who also post on the IRS ioGroup, etc.)
Grant Rail Tamper number 6 / reply
Roger Monk
Posted: 17 April 2021, 21:32
Thanks Ben - that's it. My photos are not that close up so the number is not that visible but I think it was GR505 on the Metro contract; maybe a later re-number?
Grant Rail 505 Donelli 'crane' unit & trailer / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 17 April 2021, 20:10
Almost certainly this one
https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/GR5105
Grant Rail 505 Donelli 'crane' unit & trailer / reply
Roger Monk
Posted: 17 April 2021, 19:01
Maybe the last bit of Midland Metro associated 'kit' that is UID for me. It's the Unimog on the left in this view. Can't see if it's got a registration plate on my photo (taken through the fence). I have had a search of Unimogs on this site and can't ID it from the options. It is not the blue Brecknell Willis one that was also here. BTW - The other vehicle is the Iveco 6-wheel lorry which was also RR; in this view it's yet to receive its registration number R199 EOX. It was delivered complete with a snow plough attachment. Again, thanks in advance for any help on this.
Midland Metro UID RR Unimog / reply
Roger Monk
Posted: 17 April 2021, 19:01
Seen on newly laid Metro track adjacent to the eastern end of Network Rail's Queens Head Sidings, Handsworth. Trailer carries block paving used at Metro stops. This vehicle is not recorded in the IRS WM Handbook Amendment List. I haven't found it mentioned on this site using the search facility. Any details known, please? (exact date is recorded - not to hand)
Grant Rail 505 Donelli 'crane' unit & trailer / reply
Roger Monk
Posted: 17 April 2021, 19:01
I didn't record any id for this vehicle at the time :-( . The amendment list for the IRS West Midlands Handbook shows a Robel on this contract as GR 5098. I have assumed this as the identity of the vehicle I photographed - is this known to be correct?
Grant Rail Robel rail 'lorry'; number u/k / reply
Gary Stringer
Posted: 17 April 2021, 18:59
Colas Rail Class 56 56302 hauling DR77908 & DR73110 through Rugeley Trent Valley on route to Dollands Moor from Guide Bridge 16 April 2021
77908, 73110 / reply
Nick Tompkin
Posted: 17 April 2021, 18:40
I believe you are referring to 77908 and not this machine? Unfortunately it was widely reported wrongly yesterday that 73908 was included in the move from Guide Bridge to Dollands Moor.
73908 / reply
Ex Babcock Employee
Posted: 17 April 2021, 17:28
The name plates have been given to Mr White's family. Seen the presentation photos on LinkedIn.
DR73110 / reply
Will J Snook
Posted: 17 April 2021, 17:16
exported 16/04/2021, believe its away to Austria or Egypt. Unable to confirm
73908 / reply
Will J Snook
Posted: 17 April 2021, 17:15
exported 16/04/2021
DR73110 / reply
Roger Monk
Posted: 17 April 2021, 13:06
My thanks to all respondents - it would seem that this machine is a Plasser & Theurer 'Beaver' Tamper with a narrow cab at one end (others seem to have wider cabs at both ends).
(P.S. please excuse my ignorance of the technicalities of OTP - although I am slowly learning stuff from seeing the entries on this site!! BTW - I recognise several 'names' of guys on here who also post on the IRS ioGroup, etc.)
Grant Rail Tamper number 6 / reply
Roger Harris
Posted: 17 April 2021, 12:10
for eurotunnel use on french side
33 87 4906 024-4 ET 306 / reply
Vince Website editor
Posted: 17 April 2021, 10:50
We have photos of all of it's siblings on this website if you're interested. Just do a search for any of the following numbers, either the old GR5xxx number or newer 510xx number:
GR5111 / 51000
GR5153 / 51001
GR5156 / 51021
Grant Rail Tamper number 6 / reply
Roger Monk
Posted: 17 April 2021, 10:44
This photo shows the other end of this machine with the small cab (as referred to in comments made on my other photo of this machine)
Grant Rail Tamper number 6 / reply
Roger Monk
Posted: 16 April 2021, 23:01
Thanks for the information provided on this machine. I have now submitted a photo taken of the other end of the machine showing the small cab arrangement.
I am confident that this would have been the machine seen by Ted Knotwell @ Wednesbury in 1997.
With a bit of digging online I found a link to this similar machine, VolkerRail 51001 at Scunthorpe: https://in.pinterest.com/pin/135319163780328073/
However, this one would appear to have a wider cab at the far end.
Grant Rail Tamper number 6 / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 16 April 2021, 21:11
...following this Nick has found a photo of this one in 2005 OTP book page 31. This shows 51020 with a small cab at the far end - mystery solved I think! If anyone has another photo of this one please upload it...
Grant Rail Tamper number 6 / reply
Lerpass Mapter
Posted: 16 April 2021, 20:28
Confusion for myself is the narrow single front (Tower) cab.
Looks like a Beaver but not aware of Grant/Volker having one.
Grant Rail Tamper number 6 / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 16 April 2021, 19:59
So strong possibility is this one - although we have no photo (anyone?) it was seen on Midland Metro in 1997 by Ted...
https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/pt2658
Grant Rail Tamper number 6 / reply
Roger Monk
Posted: 16 April 2021, 14:38
Grateful thanks for all the information on the other photos I posted re the Midland Metro OTP.
This one is still outstanding - Can anyone id the make and model, if possible?
Grant Rail Tamper number 6 / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 16 April 2021, 10:12
No - I think yours has a split windscreen?
Grant Rail Ballast Regulator / reply
Bryan Blundell
Posted: 16 April 2021, 08:17
That is not the one in use on the NYMR nowadays.
Grant Rail Ballast Regulator / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 16 April 2021, 06:51
The tamper behind looks like your number 6 again. This top view shows rear cab isn't a full width cab which is why I am not sure if it is one of the Beaver tampers we have listed...
Grant Rail Ballast Regulator / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 15 April 2021, 22:11
Likewise l this looks like a type 21 like the one at Embsay not a type 54?
https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/grantlyoneagre/h6395f4d6
GR5094 / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 15 April 2021, 22:09
So this looks like a type 21 like the one at Embsay not a type 54?
https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/grantlyoneagre/h6e333183
GR5096 / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 15 April 2021, 22:05
...and while we're on the subject of Grant Lyon Eagre - comments above give some history. Paul Bartlett's page seems to have photos of 3 and 5 but the one that survives at Embsay is 2.
GR5093 / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 15 April 2021, 20:37
There were a few of these here for a while. If you search "Ameca" they will appear.
Track laying machine (remote controlled) for Grant Rail contract (2nd view) / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 15 April 2021, 20:36
This one we think is
https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/TSF51050
Grant Rail Tamper - believed to be number 4 / reply
Ben Williams Editor
Posted: 15 April 2021, 20:23
I think this nearest one is probably GR5108
https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/GR5108
Grant Rail Ballast Regulator / reply