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  • Ex Babcock Employee avatar

    Ex Babcock Employee

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    Any idea where this machine is being exported to?

  • Ben Williams avatar

    Ben Williams Editor

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    Received a rumour this may be up for disposal... anyone confirm please?

  • Dan Adkins

    Dan Adkins

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    No the opposite end, will email you the photo now.

  • Ben Williams avatar

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    Ok thanks - with the packer etc? I must have missed it... and I was there last Feb so can't use trees as an excuse!

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    Full consist included tilting wagons too:

    112127 OCA

    112117 OCA

    7092280132 IFA

    7092280140 IFA

    7092280124 IFA

    7092280413 IFA

    7093780098 IFA

    979120 YRA

    7092280223 IFA

    7092280249 IFA

    7092280231 IFA

    997006 YWA

    RLS 92544 KFA

    996663 YWA

    VR 97409 KFA

    DRK 81622 ZOA

    DB 996451 YWA

    DRK 81621 ZOA

    610273 FCA

    610274 FCA

  • Roger Monk

    Roger Monk

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    Thanks, Vince. For now I have recorded it GR5101 (?505). I am hoping there's an observation 'somewhere' in the IRS records around the time of my photo.

  • Dan Adkins

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    It's still at Norchard, and visible from the car park in the trees at the very far end of the site. I assume it would be visible at the moment (but not in mid-summer perhaps) by passing train, if you looked in exactly the right place at the right time. I did get a photo of it from the car park, I'll email you a copy.

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    If you squint on my photo, the number almost looks like GR505 too. The weird italic font makes the 1 and 0 appear very close.

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    Andy Hessey

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    York to Hitchin move

  • Marcus Dawson

    Marcus Dawson

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    Could not quite get the angle on the unit to read the final digit

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    Can see most of the number above "DR9750" - "99 70 9481 008-" - making it 97508

  • Dave Kirwin

    Dave Kirwin

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    Tower Lane is part of the Industrial Estate. Map ref: 50.965899, -1.345712

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    Dave Kirwin

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    Tower Lane is part of the Industrial Estate. Map ref: 50.965899, -1.345712

  • Andrew Eccles

    Andrew Eccles

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    DRK 81622 in the consist of the 09:15 Horfield Junction to Hinksey Sidings, also in the consist but out of picture was DRK 81621

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    I couldn't find this one when I was at Norchard early last year. I see you saw it recently Dan (and gsg last year) - where is it please? I think I was told it was stored off site at the moment...

  • Roger Monk

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    Thanks, Peter. Another one solved.

    I found this 2000 financial press report on line:

    "Elec-Track’s growth of 155% a year has been driven by increased investment in Britain’s rail and tram systems..... The company, which installs and maintains overhead electrical cables for new tram systems as well as working with Railtrack.... High-profile contracts include the recently opened Birmingham-Wolverhampton tramway."

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    Jonathan Flood

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    This Trolley has joined The Rail Trolley Trust fleet. An announcement about its future home will be made shortly.

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    Jonathan Flood

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    Some pictures of this Wickham, when in service on the Lochaber Narrow Gauge Railway - https://www.flickr.com/photos/28686013@N05/albums/72157718110213481

  • Peter Hall

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    The OTPNET entry for Q204 HFR (029065) seems to have omitted that it was owned by Border Rail & Plant prior to Brecknell Willis (see OTP2000).

    The Unimog in the picture looks to be A855 MUA (021642) then with Elec-Trak Installations.

    At the time the picture was taken various contractors were working on the Midland Metro project.

  • Roger Monk

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    As yet unregistered - on the day it was delivered arriving at the Depot entrance.Note snow plough attachment in box body

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    This is potentially an interesting one! As far as I can tell, Midland Metro have only ever owned the U1650 (Q179 VOH), which isn't this machine.

    However, there are quite a few sightings at Wednesbury around this time of this machine - https://www.ontrackplant.com/road-railers/blackpool-transport-services/456

    At this time, I believe this was owned by Border Rail.

    I am wondering if the workshop/access body (which has been carried since at least 2003, and it appears possibly since 2000) may have been a later modification? Does anyone know for certain?

  • Roger Monk

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    My thanks to Vince and all respondents - I thought I had previously replied to this but the comments page is still requesting a reply.

    It would seem that this machine is a Plasser & Theurer 'Beaver' Tamper with a narrow cab at one end (others seem to have wider cabs at both ends).

    (P.S. please excuse my ignorance of the technicalities of OTP - although I am slowly learning stuff from seeing the entries on this site!! BTW - I recognise several 'names' of guys on here who also post on the IRS ioGroup, etc.)

  • Roger Monk

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    Thanks Ben - that's it. My photos are not that close up so the number is not that visible but I think it was GR505 on the Metro contract; maybe a later re-number?

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    Almost certainly this one

    https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/GR5105

  • Roger Monk

    Roger Monk

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    Maybe the last bit of Midland Metro associated 'kit' that is UID for me. It's the Unimog on the left in this view. Can't see if it's got a registration plate on my photo (taken through the fence). I have had a search of Unimogs on this site and can't ID it from the options. It is not the blue Brecknell Willis one that was also here. BTW - The other vehicle is the Iveco 6-wheel lorry which was also RR; in this view it's yet to receive its registration number R199 EOX. It was delivered complete with a snow plough attachment. Again, thanks in advance for any help on this.

  • Roger Monk

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    Seen on newly laid Metro track adjacent to the eastern end of Network Rail's Queens Head Sidings, Handsworth. Trailer carries block paving used at Metro stops. This vehicle is not recorded in the IRS WM Handbook Amendment List. I haven't found it mentioned on this site using the search facility. Any details known, please? (exact date is recorded - not to hand)

  • Roger Monk

    Roger Monk

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    I didn't record any id for this vehicle at the time :-( . The amendment list for the IRS West Midlands Handbook shows a Robel on this contract as GR 5098. I have assumed this as the identity of the vehicle I photographed - is this known to be correct?

  • Gary Stringer

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    Colas Rail Class 56 56302 hauling DR77908 & DR73110 through Rugeley Trent Valley on route to Dollands Moor from Guide Bridge 16 April 2021

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    I believe you are referring to 77908 and not this machine? Unfortunately it was widely reported wrongly yesterday that 73908 was included in the move from Guide Bridge to Dollands Moor.

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    The name plates have been given to Mr White's family. Seen the presentation photos on LinkedIn.

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    Will J Snook

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    exported 16/04/2021, believe its away to Austria or Egypt. Unable to confirm

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    Will J Snook

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    exported 16/04/2021

  • Roger Monk

    Roger Monk

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    My thanks to all respondents - it would seem that this machine is a Plasser & Theurer 'Beaver' Tamper with a narrow cab at one end (others seem to have wider cabs at both ends).

    (P.S. please excuse my ignorance of the technicalities of OTP - although I am slowly learning stuff from seeing the entries on this site!! BTW - I recognise several 'names' of guys on here who also post on the IRS ioGroup, etc.)

  • Roger Harris

    Roger Harris

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    for eurotunnel use on french side

  • Vince avatar

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    We have photos of all of it's siblings on this website if you're interested. Just do a search for any of the following numbers, either the old GR5xxx number or newer 510xx number:

    GR5111 / 51000

    GR5153 / 51001

    GR5156 / 51021

  • Roger Monk

    Roger Monk

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    This photo shows the other end of this machine with the small cab (as referred to in comments made on my other photo of this machine)

  • Roger Monk

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    Thanks for the information provided on this machine. I have now submitted a photo taken of the other end of the machine showing the small cab arrangement.

    I am confident that this would have been the machine seen by Ted Knotwell @ Wednesbury in 1997.

    With a bit of digging online I found a link to this similar machine, VolkerRail 51001 at Scunthorpe: https://in.pinterest.com/pin/135319163780328073/

    However, this one would appear to have a wider cab at the far end.

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    ...following this Nick has found a photo of this one in 2005 OTP book page 31. This shows 51020 with a small cab at the far end - mystery solved I think! If anyone has another photo of this one please upload it...

  • Lerpass Mapter

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    Confusion for myself is the narrow single front (Tower) cab.

    Looks like a Beaver but not aware of Grant/Volker having one.

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    So strong possibility is this one - although we have no photo (anyone?) it was seen on Midland Metro in 1997 by Ted...

    https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/pt2658

  • Roger Monk

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    Grateful thanks for all the information on the other photos I posted re the Midland Metro OTP.

    This one is still outstanding - Can anyone id the make and model, if possible?

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    Ben Williams Editor

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    No - I think yours has a split windscreen?

  • Bryan Blundell

    Bryan Blundell

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    That is not the one in use on the NYMR nowadays.

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    The tamper behind looks like your number 6 again. This top view shows rear cab isn't a full width cab which is why I am not sure if it is one of the Beaver tampers we have listed...

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    Likewise l this looks like a type 21 like the one at Embsay not a type 54?

    https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/grantlyoneagre/h6395f4d6

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    So this looks like a type 21 like the one at Embsay not a type 54?

    https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/grantlyoneagre/h6e333183

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    ...and while we're on the subject of Grant Lyon Eagre - comments above give some history. Paul Bartlett's page seems to have photos of 3 and 5 but the one that survives at Embsay is 2.

  • Ben Williams avatar

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    There were a few of these here for a while. If you search "Ameca" they will appear.

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    This one we think is

    https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/TSF51050

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    I think this nearest one is probably GR5108

    https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/GR5108