Network Rail/Brodie Engineering are currently in the process of rebuilding some old Perch LWRT wagons into "RDRT" wagons, each fitted with two cranes. They are being renumbered into the 99 70 9551 0xx-x series.
These have apparently now all been sent for scrap.
Seems such a waste of resources not to mention LSD
Another to add to the list of NR OTP failures unfortunately
I viewed a company called Land Recovery in Radway Green, near Crewe at the weekend. Visible from the gate were 2 stacks of 3 black painted flat wagons with what I think are NR logos. I was wondering if it could be some of these with the equipment on top removed, or perhaps some other similar wagons?
Any information or suggestions gratefully received.
(As it was a view from the gate there could have been other stuff / more wagons)
That's an excellent find Chris!
Looking at Google Maps, there are definitely several stacks of long black wagons which do look like they match the 9551 wagons:
If each of those stacks visible contains 3 wagons, that would account for all 15...
(the three twin-jib cranes visible too)
I can’t remember exactly, but I think they also acquired the yellow cranes which lived on these wagons, and are currently at another location.
Thanks Dan, I'd not thought to look at that, and it seems to make it more likely.
If anyone goes there to confirm, I'd suggest going when they are open and getting permission. It would be interesting to know what the plans for these cranes and wagons are.
i called at land recovery at radway green today 31/3/2022 and spoke to the owner who said the 3 cranes are for sale , also present was xyz w 186 and the 15 x 9551 -001 to 015 wagons .i asked about the 2x trolleys which where at the other site A500 to A 527 kidsgrove/longbridge hayes ind estate at roundabout take 2 nd exit onto chemical lane then 1 st left over railway .901210-3 was in the yard onthe left ,futher along was possible the cranes off the wagons, the owners son and operaters where extremley help full but we could not find 901183-2 ?
Thanks for the reply Vince, and Ian for confirming more details.
If I recall correctly, I was told in 2020 that these had left Eastleigh by road minus the cranes which had been removed prior to sale. This of course might not be correct as I was also told that the wagons were going to be scrapped almost immediatly. I was though always sceptical about this despite various grinders having been scrapped by Sandbach Car & Commercial, a sister company to Land Recovery Services, at Radway Green the previous year.
I also suspect certain other engineers wagons have also gone to Radway Green in recent years and may still be present either there or thereabouts. Some of those that were at York for example. In fact, I understand a wagon left York as recently as last week destined for Radway Green.
It might also be that one of the worms from the can of worms that is the former Telford/Cardiff Slinger Wagons might be involved. In fact another of these would appear to have left Derby in the last couple of weeks. How it and others got there, perhaps from one of or other of the Long Marston sites, Cardiff Canton, York or possibly elsewhere remains a mystery. What I know about them follows but not up to date:-
92502 - at Canton
92507 - renumbered 33 70 4746 115-3 - possibly at Long Marston
92509 - renumbered 99 70 9552 020-8 - in use on the national network
92510 - renumbered 33 70 4746 185-6 - now in Sweden
92512 - at Canton
92515 - at Canton
92517 - renumbered 33 70 4746 193-0 / 99 74 9215 008-8 - now in Sweden
92518 - renumbered 33 70 4746 197-1 -possibly at Long Marston
Probably at least one, if not more of those I list as Canton, have subsequently moved to Long Marston / Sweden or elsewhere.
Eyeball confirmations of current whereabouts would be appreciated. As various road movemebnts have taken place TOPS is not to be relied on.
Peter I can confirm from a personal sighting 3 days ago that all 15 9551 wagons are present minus cranes along with kfa 93247, drc78229, 78231 and 78234 and tamper w176. When I asked it was confirmed that the 9551 wagons are owned by Land Recovery.
I was wondering if anyone who has visited would be able to confirm which RDRT wagon was in the stack with 5 + 8 on top, plus which 2 were stacked under wagon 10 please?
There were 5 stacks of 3 wagons. My recollection based on how I have written them down in my note book suggests that each of the 5 stacks from top to bottom were 001 006 007, 004 011 013, 009 002 014, 008 015 005, 012 003 010. Whilst what is in each stack is definitely correct I cannot 100% vouch that the order is necessarily correct as I didn’t intentionally write them down in that way.
Thanks Lee, I am happy that's sufficient for my records.
Lee Taylor, with your knowledg of the areae how easy is it to get to the Land Recovery site by local bus transport and on foot from either stoke-on-trent or crewe?
Might possibly head up from Kent next Tuesday
Any help gratefully appreciated
Steve, the walk from alsager station to radway green is about 2 miles and takes about half an hour. Alternatively there is a bus from Crewe to Alsager, service 3 I believe which passes the quarry and takes about 20 minutes. I think the service is every 30 minutes at 02 and 32 past the hour from Crewe bus station but it should pass the station a few minutes later. The people at the quarry are amenable to visits. Hope this is of use
Thanks Lee for the information about the KFA now at Radway Green. With the lid now off the KFA "can of worms" again I have started a seperate topic for these wagons. Contributions, particularly regarding the whereabouts of the survivors is welcomed.