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Are Wickham trailers listed?

Dan Adkins

Dan Adkins

Are Wickham trailers listed on this site, or just those that were ex trolleys? At the Mountsorrel & Rothley Community Centre they have a Wickham type 17 trailer which I can't find on this site, given the running number 7595T. It uses an original, early type 17 trailer frame from the South Tynedale Railway, with later wheels from a trolley frame at the K&WVR, so that it matches their Type 17 trolley. Is this listed on the site anywhere please, or is it suitable for inclusion?

Ben Williams avatar

Ben Williams Editor

I think the only Wickham trailers listed here are ones that are dismantled trolleys or the larger purpose-built Wickham trailers.

Brian Cuttell

Brian Cuttell

Some of the ex-Army Wickham trolleys had their own trailers. I saw one numbered T9022 at Beverley Army Museum with ARMY 9035 in September 1989. ARMY 9024 was said to have come with a trailer when it came to Peak Rail for attention a few years ago from Chinnor and a trailer is visible at Chinnor on one of the photos on the website.

Ex-Industrial Wickham 9688 at Peak Rail also has its own trailer although this has been loaned out to Waterman Railway Trust at Rowsley in recent times for use as a flat wagon.

Peter Hall

Peter Hall

The lists do not appear to be directly linked from the menus for Wickham trolleys or Trailers accessed through lists on the top bar. If you know the number of one you can click on lists through its details page.

Perhaps a tweak is needed to the website to make them easier to find.

Jonathan Flood avatar

Jonathan Flood

I've been working on a conclusive list of all surviving Wickham railway vehicles, which includes all actual Wickham trailers & also all Wickham DsmTs as well.

Please feel free to contact me Dan.

Peter Hall

Peter Hall

Some of the smaller purpose Wickham Trailers do now appear to be recognised in a search.

T9012 (Wkm 3404/1943), T9022 (Wkm 7098/1958) and Wkm 8201/1958 though come up as page not found when you click for details. All rather confusing.

However, Wkm 7953/1957 at the Nene Valley does work. Surprisingly though no one has yet submitted a sighting for it.

Vince avatar

Vince Website editor

I have fixed the underlying issue, so now when the editorial team add new records the pages should work properly. Apologies for any confusion caused.

Peter Hall

Peter Hall

Just tried a search on T9012, T9022 and 8201 in the search box and records do now come up but without details. Also worth noting that the three examples given are now in the Wickham Purpose Built Trailer list but as no longer extant. Clicking on them in that list gives the same result as a search. All three I believe are still extant.

Probably also worth mentioning that there is agreement in the Wickham community that Roy's November 1986 picture of PWM2830 https://www.ontrackplant.com/photo/pwm2830 is actually of 9021 https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/9021. However, members of the editorial team tell me switching or deleting then adding a fresh is beyond their powers and can only be instigated by the Editor in chief.

Peter Hall

Peter Hall

Wickham Purpose Built Trailers T9012, T9022 and 8201 are now fully functioning. They can be found along with other similarly Purpose Built Trailers by clicking the Wickham Trolleys link https://www.ontrackplant.com/wickham-trolleys in Lists https://www.ontrackplant.com/lists, then the Wickham Purpose Built Trailer link https://www.ontrackplant.com/wickham-trolleys/list-3293-wickham-trolleys. Alternatively just put T9012, T9022 or 8201 in the serach box.

Now they are listed you are encouraged to add your sightings of these and any other Wickham Purpose Built Trailers that you have seen.

However, worth mentioning again that there is agreement in the Wickham community that Roy's November 1986 picture of PWM2830 https://www.ontrackplant.com/photo/pwm2830 is actually of 9021 https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/9021. However, members of the editorial team tell me switching or deleting then adding a fresh is beyond their powers and can only be instigated by the Editor in chief. If the Editor in chief sees this, can they action it?

Peter Hall

Peter Hall

Following the discovery by Obar123 of a Wickham Trailer converted from a trolley at the Whitwell and Reepham Railway last week a record has now been added. Search for MN0005 https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/wickham-mn005.

I suspect a reason why not all trailers converted from trolleys are listed is due to problems identifying them. Thus the usefullness of having recent pictures of them. Fortunately, Obar123 took a picture of MN0005 which he has uploaded. This should help ayone identify this trailer in the future. Further sightings of it, both past and future welcomed.

Peter Hall

Peter Hall

Hopefully the Editor in Chief will pick up on this.

The comments regarding the picture of Wickham Trailer MN0005 https://www.ontrackplant.com/photo/7581-2 do not appear under comments on the page for MN0005 https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/wickham-mn005 I suspect this had something to do with the picture originally being with the wrong entry.

Brian Cuttell

Brian Cuttell

Is Wickham Trailer flat (ex-Trolley) PWM3963 (Wickham 6948) still in existence at Didcot Railway Centre? It used to be easy to identify as it still had the PWM plate on the frame for many years.

Peter Hall

Peter Hall

It would appear that PWM3963 is still in existence at Didcot, Jonathan has a Flickr album https://www.flickr.com/photos/28686013@N05/albums/72177720310976172/ devoted to it. All the pictures were taken in August 2023. Possibly its restoration has progressed significantly since then.

Details if the editors wish to add it.

PWM3963

Owner **Preserved Vehicles.

Vehicle = Wickham Trailer - ex Trolley.

Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered trailers.

Build Number 6948/1955.

Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered.

Preserved = Didcot Railway Centre.

Previous Numbers = B37W

Following the recent comments surrounding "7581" I have also suggested DB965066 (Wickham 7581) be added.

DB965066

Owner **Preserved Vehicles.

Vehicle = Wickham Trailer - ex Trolley.

Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered trailers.

Build Number 7581/1956.

Category = Wickham Trolleys - unpowered.

Preserved = Private Site - East Sussex

Previous Number = DE320484

Notes = Builders plate 7581/1956 carried by Type 17 trolley between c1982-2012. See "7581".

Peter Hall

Peter Hall

The editors have now added records for PWM3963 https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/wickham-06948 and DB965066 https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/wickham-07581.

If anyone has pictures of either of these trailers please do upload them. That will help others identify them if seen.

Sightings should also be added if you have any that you are as certain as you can be are correct. As Brian has mentioned PWM3963 was quite easy to identify at Didcot.

DB965066 probably lost its builders plate in c1979-82 whilst being overhauled and being converted to a trailer. Its builders plate then being carried by "7581" https://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/7581. Thus, extremely important if you identified a Wickham by the 7581/1956 plate the sighting is added for the correct vehicle.

It is understood that DB965066 was located at the Bluebell Railway between c1972 and c2003 other than the period C1979-82 when it was off site being converted.

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